tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4456617944315372118.post4566046202839600654..comments2024-01-03T21:18:04.198-08:00Comments on In Your Neighborhood: Noose in the news from Duke's Chowder House: will Duke be lynched?High School Confidentialhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17350238752693393750noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4456617944315372118.post-19409394321338362982008-03-24T12:50:00.000-07:002008-03-24T12:50:00.000-07:00It would be very worthwhile for folks to read Leon...It would be very worthwhile for folks to read Leonard Pitts' column today, Monday, March 21st. about moving forward with this conversation, in the TNT. I thought it was an excellent piece.Lorraine Harthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01116210981761633646noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4456617944315372118.post-41460606383477046702008-03-20T11:54:00.000-07:002008-03-20T11:54:00.000-07:00SOCIETY IS DIVIDED... we have never talked things ...SOCIETY IS DIVIDED... we have never talked things out... this is a good time to look at history honestly... name things for what they are... no patronizing... no minimizing... no personalizing...<BR/>stick with things like--- Americans were lynched by other Americans; we are still using and hurting one another because we put profits ahead of each other--- NOW we can make a difference by choosing not to participate in conversations, actions, or inactions that divide us...<BR/> NO MORE HALF STEPPING... NO MORE FINGER POINTING... NO MORE HIDING OUR HEADS IN THE SAND...<BR/>THIS IS 2008, A CHANCE TO BE REAL AND TO BUILD REAL RELATIONSHIPS<BR/><BR/>THE NOOSE HAS GOT TO GO!!!<BR/><BR/>Joseph McGJosephMcGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13059894814761761857noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4456617944315372118.post-77519789615375461782008-03-19T18:49:00.000-07:002008-03-19T18:49:00.000-07:00...and, if we let ourselves offend without taking ......and, if we let ourselves offend without taking responsibility to acknowledge we have offended, we have also done ourselves no good.Lorraine Harthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01116210981761633646noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4456617944315372118.post-4190347763974853492008-03-19T16:12:00.000-07:002008-03-19T16:12:00.000-07:00If I let everything that offends me turn into a ca...If I let everything that offends me turn into a canyon separating me from the rest of society, then I have dome myself no good.tuddohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03998884585380148567noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4456617944315372118.post-64211558391065432082008-03-19T09:19:00.000-07:002008-03-19T09:19:00.000-07:00...and therein lie the tiny drips that erode into ......and therein lie the tiny drips that erode into a canyon between us.Lorraine Harthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01116210981761633646noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4456617944315372118.post-75902623164315796952008-03-18T20:47:00.000-07:002008-03-18T20:47:00.000-07:00I got the email today and did not even notice the ...I got the email today and did not even notice the noose. (And we went to Duke's for lunch.)Get Some Hairapy!https://www.blogger.com/profile/07202271700097086343noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4456617944315372118.post-65535312491061388392008-03-18T19:57:00.000-07:002008-03-18T19:57:00.000-07:00Sorry... I got the email address wrong... it is du...Sorry... I got the email address wrong... it is duketalk@dukeschowderhouse.comJosephMcGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13059894814761761857noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4456617944315372118.post-15490257597852376302008-03-18T19:51:00.000-07:002008-03-18T19:51:00.000-07:00I just sent an email to duketalk@chowderhouse.com ...I just sent an email to duketalk@chowderhouse.com saying get rid of the ad and apologize to every person on your mailing list...<BR/><BR/>I had started to do a post on the noose... read an article from the Boston Globe that said the noose was replacing the burning cross as a new KKK sign...<BR/><BR/>then decided to just keep supporting all of us to get on with frank, hard nosed conversation, and let those folks who think they are just being funny hear from me..<BR/><BR/>2008 is going to be a great year for telling the truth<BR/><BR/>Joseph McGJosephMcGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13059894814761761857noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4456617944315372118.post-53709237145683119662008-03-18T19:08:00.000-07:002008-03-18T19:08:00.000-07:00Poor attempts at humor... right, does it hurt, rig...Poor attempts at humor... right, does it hurt, right, is the death penalty an appropriate way to punish people... MY COMMENT...NO...<BR/> Should we just let this one pass by... no...<BR/>Am I finished with my comments... Yes<BR/>(for the moment)<BR/>Joseph McGJosephMcGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13059894814761761857noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4456617944315372118.post-26109876264274945972008-03-18T18:43:00.000-07:002008-03-18T18:43:00.000-07:00It was, at best, a poor attempt at humor. At wors...It was, at best, a poor attempt at humor. At worst, it was just plain tacky. I think common sense needs to prevail. I think most of us understand that the marketing people had no other ulterior motive. It was juvenile humor.<BR/><BR/>The noose is a fairly morbid object by itself. One wonders why they would choose to use it at all.<BR/><BR/>Frankly, aside from that, it was fairly innocuous. There should be no way anyone should interpret more into this than what there really is.<BR/><BR/>VWVWhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00745865463002867406noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4456617944315372118.post-85100862947947841032008-03-18T18:26:00.000-07:002008-03-18T18:26:00.000-07:00I believe those numbers just reflect the twentieth...I believe those numbers just reflect the twentieth century population percentages in Washington State. What are the percentages nationally?<BR/><BR/>Pain has to be acknowledged before "moving on"...and it doesn't have to be a grandiose act...just the honest acknowledgement.<BR/><BR/>Thinking of wild west movies and childhood games with 'goodies' and 'baddies' ...not thinking for a moment about the deep trauma just the phrase "lynching <B>party</B>" brings to the consciousness, before one decides to say it, doesn't move the conversation forward. If someone has never had to fear for their lives, or their loved ones lives just because of the colour of their skin, they cannot understand how necessary this acknowledgement is.Lorraine Harthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01116210981761633646noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4456617944315372118.post-38884171052729512672008-03-18T17:34:00.000-07:002008-03-18T17:34:00.000-07:00Posted without added personal comments:(found here...<B>Posted without added personal comments:<BR/><BR/>(found here: http://www.doc.wa.gov/offenderinfo/capitalpunishment/ )</B><BR/><BR/><B>Capital Punishment in Washington State<BR/><BR/>The Law</B><BR/><BR/>Washington’s capital punishment law requires that capital punishment imposed by the state’s courts be carried out at the Washington State Penitentiary in Walla Walla. Procedures for conducting executions are supervised by the Penitentiary Superintendent.<BR/><BR/><B>Methods of Execution</B><BR/><BR/>Washington utilizes two methods of execution: lethal injection and <B>hanging</B>. Lethal injection is used unless the inmate under sentence of death chooses <B>hanging</B> as the preferred execution method.<BR/><BR/><B>After an Offender is Sentenced</B><BR/><BR/>Within 10 days of a trial court entering a judgment and sentence imposing the death penalty, male defendants under sentence of death are transferred to the Penitentiary, where they remain in a segregation unit pending appeals and until a death warrant is issued setting the date for the execution. Female defendants under sentence of death are housed at the Washington Corrections Center for Women before being transferred to the Penitentiary no later than 72 hours prior to a scheduled execution.<BR/><BR/><B>Executions in Washington State</B><BR/><BR/>Since 1904, 77 persons have been executed in Washington, none of whom were women.<BR/><BR/><B>Executions by Ethnicity<BR/><BR/> * Caucasian - 65<BR/> * Black - 7<BR/> * Asian - 2<BR/> * Hispanic - 2<BR/> * Eskimo - 1</B>Porgiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07380437203157926760noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4456617944315372118.post-69283486014308167452008-03-18T17:21:00.000-07:002008-03-18T17:21:00.000-07:00Good for you tuddo... let us now continue the conv...Good for you tuddo... let us now continue the conversation about nooses and lynching... I am more than willing to get on with building relationship... as long as you know that the noose and lynching hurts, hurts, hurts... it hurts because too many Black people were either lynched or threatened with the noose if they chose to stand up for themselves... as human beings...<BR/><BR/>It also hurts because it was used by people in our country to kill other people and I do not believe we have some right given because we are human beings who have the right to judge and kill other people...<BR/><BR/>So I encourage us all to start studying American history seriously and choose to live life together that is thoughtful and compassionate<BR/><BR/>It is talk to talk about race without expecting others to tolerate us... <BR/><BR/>Honesty, understanding, and acceptance are now essential to our survival and growth<BR/><BR/>Joseph McGJosephMcGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13059894814761761857noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4456617944315372118.post-38495617672472280672008-03-18T16:38:00.000-07:002008-03-18T16:38:00.000-07:00I think both of you should read and pay close atte...I think both of you should read and pay close attention to Obama's speech today. He has important messages for both of you. Listen to what each other is saying, try to understand the different points of view. Then move forward.<BR/><BR/>I am white and grew up in West Texas. The noose always conjured up the wild west for me, with outlaws and bad guys getting strung up. A lynching party often went out for some n'eer do well when the sheriff wouldn't. It wasn't a racist thing at all.<BR/><BR/>I know better now because of the reaction of Black people, but cut me some slack for my own experiences, which are valid, too. Give each other the benefit of the doubt and move on, will ya'?tuddohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03998884585380148567noreply@blogger.com